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Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien – both together they would have been happy (perhaps). Not enough: "Bekker made it then public that his Beethoven letter was a forgery. Thayer thought the letter must have been written around 1806-07. "I was so lucky to have been acquainted with Beethoven, intimately and intellectually, for so many years! [4] The letter is written in pencil and consists of three parts. ): Letters to Beethoven & other Correspondence. [That Beethoven's famous "Letter to the Immortal Beloved" ... was addressed to Josephine von Brunsvik, is now a well established fact.]. (Jean and Brigitte Massin 1955, p. Beethoven's love letter is very famous and often quoted in literary media as well as television, movies, and commercials. 182-185, p. 349, Walden (2002, 2011). [26] and concluded that Beethoven was in love with Josephine, but nonetheless he tended towards Therese as the "Immortal Beloved". The letter may never have been sent. [32] Goldschmidt (1980) explains why the German Beethoven scholarship was so reluctant to accept Kaznelson's theory (already published before these "13 letters"): "The fact that, as a result of this meeting, they had to take a natural daughter into account, appeared so venturesome to the professional world that the resistance to the Josephine hypothesis stiffened noticeably. Nothing but bubbles and dreams! ), "Ohne schlüssige Beweise des Gegenteils wird man sich nicht mehr voreilig von der zunehmend begründeten Annahme trennen wollen, daß die 'Unsterbliche Geliebte' schwerlich eine andere als die 'Einzig Geliebte' war." See also Tellenbach (1988) for the effect of guardianship laws. 159. (Forbes 1967, p. 1090), reprinted in Goldschmidt (1980). Beethoven’s Love Letters On This Page The Immortal Beloved Letters The Early Candidates for the Immortal Beloved The Later Candidates Recent Theories Letters to Unknown Women Once upon a time in old Vienna, the great composer Ludwig von Beethoven passed away quietly at his home. Eine Biographie [Beethoven: The Lonely Revolutionary. The entire letter is written on 10 small pages, in Beethoven's rather inconsistent handwriting. Take note of how these artists and authors expressed their undying love for their significant others. Kaznelson arrived at his conclusion even though H C Bodmer in Zürich, owner of the "13 Letters" after World War II (see following), would not allow him access to them. Refuted by Goldschmidt (1980), p. 325 f. Astonishingly, this book was published in 1964 in German translation even though the "13 Letters" (translated by Anderson, 1961) had meanwhile been published, clearly indicating a very heterosexual drive in the composer! Beethoven's love letter is very famous and often quoted in literary media as well as television, movies, and commercials. "[51] Solomon (1998, p. 229) quotes as supporting his case the Song "An die Geliebte" [To the Beloved] WoO 140, an autograph of which contains in Antonie's handwriting the remark: "Requested by me from the author on 2 March 1812. A New Look at Beethoven's Diary Entry and the 'Immortal Beloved.". Zu gleicher Zeit war Josephine unglüklich! "Wie unglüklich bei so grossen Geistesgaben. ", Finally, Kopitz' (2001) "valiant effort … show[ed] that Antonie cannot have been the 'Immortal Beloved'. [Beethoven's Immortal Beloved. as it is now!!!! ", Beahrs, Virginia (1986): "The Immortal Beloved Revisited. ), Learn how and when to remove this template message, Ira F. Brilliant Center for Beethoven Studies, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immortal_Beloved&oldid=997474477, Articles needing additional references from November 2019, All articles needing additional references, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. 27, No. Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827), one of history’s most famous and mysterious composers died at the age of 57 with one great secret. Beethoven was known to love many women, and as his friend F.G. Wegeler once wrote, "Beethoven was never out of love." [14], After Schmidt-Görg (1957) published 13 then-unknown love letters by Beethoven to Josephine Brunsvik, it became clear that the one to the "Immortal Beloved" was not the only love letter authored by him. The letter was found amongst the composers things after his death. [58], Lund (1988) made a claim that Antonie's son Karl, born exactly eight months after the alleged encounter with Beethoven, should have been his son; even Solomon did not endorse this, as he thought "it was 'sensationalistic'." Josephines Herzensfreund! And regarding Karlsbad: "It is possible that the letter arose from a ... meeting with a woman who informed Beethoven that she was going to Karlsbad and then failed to carry out her declared intention." Letters by Beethoven to Josephine translations made directly from German: 15 Love Letters by and 7 Letters by Josephine to Beethoven. Maternal affection made her forgo her own happiness. Why did not my sister Josephine, as widow Deym, take him as her husband? 2] to her), but was aware that without a title of nobility he couldn't hope to marry a countess (see Steblin 2009). New Perspectives on the Love Story of the Great Composer. Tantalizing is the assumption, because, Absurd, they argue, is the assumption because of. [The Meaning of the Eagle Allegory in Beethoven's Letter to Therese Countess Brunsvik. "Beethoven! This, together with interviews of some of the Brunsvik descendants, led her to the conclusion that Therese must have been the "Immortal Beloved."[18]. (Goldschmidt 1980, p. The Juno award-winning Gryphon Trio has recorded the work with both Canadian mezzo-soprano Julie Nesrallah (New York: Naxos, 2015) and Luxembourg baritone David John Pike (Montreal: Analekta, 2019). (Goldschmidt 1980, p. 138 f.) Goldschmidt's judgement about Stoll (1777-1815) is far too negative however. A snippet: My bosom is full, to tell you much — there are moments when I find that speech is nothing at all. A crucial figure in the transition between the Classical and Romantic eras in Classical music, he remains one of the most recognized and influential of all composers. [... veröffentlichte Bekker, der von ihm publizierte Beethoven-Brief sei eine Fälschung. ", Beahrs, Virginia Oakley (1988): "The Immortal Beloved Riddle Reconsidered.". (Meredith 2011, p. x), Beahrs (1993, p. 183 f.) supported Josephine: "Was there for him in fact … one deep and lasting passion for a certain dear one, marriage to whom was precluded, not by psychological inhibitions of the inner man, but by prohibitive heart-breaking externals? ist es doch wie ein Traum, [daß] er der Freund, der Vertraute unseres Hauses war – ein herrlicher Geist – warum nahm ihn meine Schwester J. nicht zu ihrem Gemahl als Witwe Deym? 240.). It is unclear whether or not the letter was ever sent, or if it was sent, if it was returned. After Beethoven’s death in March 1827 two documents were discovered in his desk. It is almost certain the young Beethoven fell in love with Eleonore as a teenager in Bonn, and quite likely that he pressed his suit (unsuccessfully). There has been many candidates, starting with Guilietta Guiccardi.Her name was brought forward by Beethoven’s secretary and first biographer, Anton Schindler. - Only a few words today, and, what is more, written in pencil (and with your pencil)-I shan't be certain of my rooms here until tomorrow; what an unnecessary waste of time is all this--Why this profound sorrow, when necessity speaks--can our love endure without sacrifices, without our demanding everything from one another, can you alter the fact that you are not wholly mine, that I am not wholly yours?--Dear God, look at Nature in all her beauty and set your heart at rest about what must be--Love demands all, and rightly so, and thus it is for me with you, for you with me-- but you forget so easily that I must live for me and for you; if we were completely united, you would fee this painful necessity just as little as I do--My journey was dreadful and I did not arrive here until yesterday at four o'clock in the morning. Therefore, a total of 10 pages make up the Immortal Beloved letter. These I haveinserted in chronological order, and marked withthe letter K., in order to distinguish them from thecorrespondence edited by Dr. Nohl. Beethoven and Antonie, since her return to Vienna, were "on friendly terms", In the summer of 1812 he lived in the same hotel in Franzensbad as the Brentanos, and. Josephine's intimate friend, her soul mate! May 21, 2016 - Beethoven's famous love letter Immortal Beloved Ever thine - ever mine - ever ours On Maynard Solomon's Interpretations of Beethoven and Schubert. The letter was addressed to "My Angel...", but as the term "Immortal Beloved" (appearing only once towards the end of the letter) was unique in Beethoven's vocabulary, it has been used ever since. [21] A summary of the older literature can be found in Forbes (1967, pp. ... From the standpoint of music theory, the connections make eminent sense. "[24], La Mara (1920), after discovering more letters and notes in the Brunsvik estates, was now convinced "that ... Josephine widowed Countess Deym was Beethoven's 'Immortal Beloved'".[25]. After Beethoven’s death in 1827 an unsent love letter was discovered dedicated to his ‘Immortal Beloved’ – but who was she? Doubts were raised by de Hevesy (1910), who ruled out Teréz Brunszvik,[20] and by Unger (1910) against Amalie Sebald. 21.) He had dedicated in the same year to her daughter Maxe a one-movement trio. [46] His hypothesis was founded on two major assumptions (or prerequisites): ad 1: Antonie arrived in Prague on 3 July 1812 after an arduous journey with husband, child and servant (and was registered there); she left at dawn the following morning: "Where did she have time that night for a tryst with Beethoven?" Beethoven's Love Letters Here are Beethoven's 3 love letters to Immortal Beloved. ix-xxxiv. (Solomon 1998, p. 219 f.) Goldschmidt showed that "for short stays, residents [as opposed to foreigners] were exempt from reporting requirements". An die Geliebte WoO 140. "… da Giulietta ihre Affären nicht verheimlichte…" [… since Giulietta did not cover up her affairs…] (Tellenbach 1983, p. 17), (the "Louis" mentioned by Therese in her diary was in fact Count Louis Migazzi), "The tone of the notes to Amalie Sebald in September, 1812, is incompatible with that of the letter to the 'Immortal Beloved'." ep. In the summer of 1812, Beethoven wrote three love letters to an unknown woman. For most, it is so hard to imagine receiving an outpouring of our lover’s passion in the way that composer Ludwig Van Beethoven displayed when he put pen to paper to express his undying love to the woman who had captured his heart. At first most researchers, including Alexander Wheelock Thayer,[19] also thought Therese was the "Immortal Beloved". That Josephine could have been the unknown woman was subsequently suggested by analyses of similarities in wordings and phrases between earlier letters (from 1804 to 1809) and this mysterious one from 1812, mainly in the monographs by Massin (1955, 1970), Goldschmidt (1980) and Tellenbach (1983, p. 103 f.):[15], In his biography of Beethoven, Schindler (1840) named Julie ("Giulietta") Guicciardi as the "Immortal Beloved". Aaron M. Green is an expert on classical music and music history, with more than 10 years of both solo and ensemble performance experience. ... her reliability and truthfulness are today under a cloud. Josephine's candidacy as the "Immortal Beloved" was contested by Solomon (1988), mainly in response to Massin (1955, 1970), Goldschmidt (1980) and Tellenbach (1983). It is clear from 13 letters from Beethoven to Josephine - which only came to light after the second world war - that Beethoven was passionately in love with her in the period 1804-7, that he suggested they should have a physical relationship, and that she refused. Miss Kissi-Debra described reading Beethoven’s love letters to Ella after they had their final meal together on Valentine’s Day evening before her fatal asthma attack. … Die dilettantischen Verse haben ebenfalls Stammbuchcharakter. She was a happily married wife and mother ... her candidacy, which includes the improbable scenario of a 'ménage à trois' in Karlsbad, makes no psychological sense." Beahrs, Virginia (1993): "Beethoven's Only Beloved? Meredith, William (2011): "Introduction", in Walden (2011), pp. These can be summarized into two important items: "A new way of looking at old evidence confirms that Josephine was Beethoven's one and only 'Immortal Beloved'. In 1955 the French scholars Jean and Brigitte Massin noted that Antonie Brentano was present in Prague and Karlsbad at the time and proposed her as a possible candidate for the "Immortal Beloved": "The assumption that it could have been Antonie Brentano, is both tantalizing and absurd. It was written to an unknown woman who Beethoven simply called his *Immortal Beloved. the Archduke Rudolph,Cardinal-Archbishop of Olmütz. The passionate feelings manifested in these letters where addressed to a person unknown. (Steblin 2007, p. 148) [Psychoanalysis and Historiocritical Method. ], Skwara, Dagmar/Steblin, Rita (2007): "Ein Brief Christoph Freiherr von Stackelbergs an Josephine Brunsvik-Deym-Stackelberg." 16.) La Mara (1909) published Teréz Brunszvik's memoirs, which show her full of admiration and adoration of Beethoven. Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) was a German composer and pianist. "[53] Solomon (1972, p. 572) declares that Beethoven's separation from his "Only Beloved" Josephine two years before (due to her second marriage) does not rule out that she could have been the "Immortal Beloved": "There is no certainty that the affair was not momentarily rekindled a half-decade later. Beahrs, Virginia (1990): "My Angel, My All, My Self": A Literal Translation of Beethoven's Letter to the Immortal Beloved. In his numerous letters, compositions and notes there are some - albeit unrequited - declarations of love. Thomas-San-Galli (1909, 1910) checked out the official listings of guests in Bohemia, and at first (in 1909) concluded that Amalie Sebald was the "Immortal Beloved". (Solomon 1998, p. 461, n. The only difference between these Beethoven's Eternal Love declarations and the declarations in the Letters to "The Immortal Beloved" is the "You" ("polite form") in this Letter: ([Vienna, 1805 first quarter]) and the "You" in the Letters to the "Eternally Beloved" written by Beethoven in July 1812: "ewig dein = eternally yours - ewig mein = eternally mine - ewig uns = eternally ours". To this day the debate rages as to who the intended recipient might be of these unsent letters. (Beethoven's mention in the letter of Prince Esterházy's presence at Teplitz confirms that the year must have been 1812) (Goldschmidt 1980). University of Nebraska Press. [Beethoven's sacred hands, whom I deeply admire, he is walking divinely among mortals, his elevated stature opposed to the world beneath.] The mystery during the years has been who the “Immortal beloved” is. The gods must send us everything else, whatever must and shall be our fate--Your faithful Ludwig, Monday evening, July 6thYou are suffering, you, my most precious one--I have noticed the very moment that letters have to be handed in very early, on Monday--or on Thursday--the only days when the mail coach goes from here to K[arlsbad].--You are suffering--Oh, where I am, you are with me--I will see to it that you and I, that I can live with you. Beethoven was briefly infatuated with her in 1801-2 (when she was his piano pupil, and dedicated his renowned "Moonlight" Sonata [in C-sharp minor, Op. (Goldschmidt 1980, p. 165 f.), "Um die Antonia–Hypothese möglicherweise mit den ihr sachlich innewaltenden Widersprüchen endgültig zu verifizieren, bedarf es der Falsifizierung anderer sich anbietender Hypothesen." Mutterliebe bestimmte sie – – auf eigenes Glück zu verzichten." think of Beethoven’s music as having a certain universal appeal that transcends time, place and culture, his letters seem to express universal truths. My hear overflows with a longing to tell you so many things--Oh--there are moments when I find that speech is quite inadequate--Be cheerful-- and be for ever my faithful, my only sweetheart, my all, as I am yours. ", Schindler (1840). * Stoll was a very successful playwright, who from 1809 on even received an honorary pension from Napoleon. What he needed was a wife, that's for sure. [Ich müßte heilige Bande verletzen, gäbe ich Ihrem Verlangen Gehör – Glauben Sie – daß ich, durch Erfüllung meiner Pflichten, am meisten leide – und daß gewiß, edle Beweggründe meine Handlungen leiteten.] Although all have been advanced as Beethoven's unknown Immortal Beloved, the assessment is unsupported by the record or by any known correspondence. ), "Ich will Liebert in Prag prechen. Steblin, Rita (2009): "'A dear, enchanting girl who loves me and whom I love': New Facts about Beethoven's Beloved Piano Pupil Julie Guicciardi". These were the Heiligenstadt Testament and the love letters shown above. (Cooper 1996, p. 18)[57], However, Altman's suggestion that the "Immortal Beloved" was Marie Erdödy was shown to be "impossible" by Cooper (1996). (Beethoven's "Immortal Beloved": the Riddle Solved.). ], Schmidt-Görg, Joseph (1969): "Neue Schriftstücke zu Beethoven und Josephine Gräfin Deym." If we hadn't had those two postillions I should have been left stranded on the way--On the other ordinary road Esterhazy with eight horses met with the same fate as I did with four--Yet I felt to a certain extent that pleasure I always feel when I have overcome some difficulty successfully--Well, let me turn quickly from outer to inner experiences. [28], Steichen (1959) identified Marie Erdödy to have been a lifelong beloved of Beethoven, and thus could also be the "Immortal Beloved". A Contribution to his Biography.]. All we know is that it was written on the 6th and 7th of July. Since undertaking the translation of Dr. LudwigNohl's valuable edition of "Beethoven's Letters,"an additional collection has been published by Dr.Ludwig Ritter von Köchel, consisting of manyinteresting letters addressed by Beethoven to hisillustrious pupil, H.R.H. In 1957, 13 Love Letters written by Beethoven to Josephine were published in German by Joseph Schmidt-Gorg and by the "Beethoven-Haus Bonn" in a Facsimile Edition. Josephinens Haus- und Herzensfreund! There is still room for a reasonable doubt." "[56], Altman (1996) "demonstrates, as indeed Tellenbach has done, that much of the basis for the claims of Antonie's supporters consists of distortions, suppositions, opinions, and even plain inaccuracies." ... Dilettante verses ... by a clumsy author, a real dilettante, a coffeehouse poet. I have onlyomitted a few brief notes, consi… "[52] The background to this: "In November 1811, we see Beethoven writing a newly composed song with the heading 'An die Geliebte' [To the Beloved] into the album of the Bavarian Court singer Regina Lang. Yes, I am resolved to be a wanderer abroad until I can fly to your arms and say that I have found my true home with you and enfolded in your arms can let my soul be wafted to the realm on blessed spirits--alas, unfortunately it must be so--You will become composed, the more so as you know that I am faithful to you; no other woman can ever possess my heart--never--never--Oh God, why must one be separated from her who is so dear. • Albrecht, Theodore (1996, ed. ", Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1988): "Künstler und Ständegesellschaft um 1800: die Rolle der Vormundschaftsgesetze in Beethovens Beziehung zu Josephine Gräfin Deym." They were therefore not independent objective requirements at all." 296. To learn more about Beethoven, including his nine symphonies and recommended recordings, stop by the One-Stop Beethoven Resource page. Immortal Beloved refers to a 10-page unsent love letter found in Beethoven’s estate following his death in 1827. He wrote a series of passionate letters — a total of 10 pages written in pencil — to a woman, his “Immortal Beloved.” These heartbreaking letters were found after Beethoven’s death. Upon his death, a love letter was found among his possessions. Kaznelson (1954) evaluated more of the documents in the Brunsvik estates, and even though he thought that Rahel Varnhagen was behind the "Distant Beloved" he concluded that the "Immortal Beloved" must have been Josephine mainly because her daughter Minona was born exactly nine months after the encounter with Beethoven and her husband Baron Stackelberg was away. 162. ", In a review of Tellenbach (1983) in the leading German newspaper F.A.Z. "[33] Schmidt-Görg (1957, p. 31) believed that with the last letter (which he still thought to have been written in 1807 – not 1809) and with Josephine's marriage to Baron Stackelberg (in 1810) the love relationship was terminated. – Die Hand des Schicksals ruht düster auf mir – Ich sah nebst meinem tiefen Kummer auch noch die Entartung meiner Kinder und – fast – aller Muth wich von mir –!!! Another Schindler Forgery?". My estimate is ... in the fall of 1811. ), Rolland was in contact with Marianne Czeke, who seemed to have known quite a lot more about the relationship between Beethoven and the Brunsviks. ... All of the puzzling aspects about Beethoven's affair with the 'Immortal Beloved', including his various cryptic comments, can be explained in terms of his one known beloved – Josephine. Munich: Beck 2012. Cooper, Barry (1996): "Beethoven's Immortal Beloved and Countess Erdödy: A Case of Mistaken Identity?". Forbes, 1967), Thomas-San-Galli (1909, 1910), La Mara (1920), Rolland (1928), Thomas-San-Galli (1909, 1910); see: Goldschmidt (1977), pp. Walden, Edward (2002): "Beethoven's 'Immortal Beloved': Arguments in Support of the Candidacy of Bettina Brentano". At the same time Josephine was unhappy! No doubt we shall meet soon; and today also time fails me to tell you of the thoughts which during these last few days I have been revolving about my life--If our hearts were always closely united, I would certainly entertain no such thoughts. In the early hours of February 15, 2013 Ella woke and was raced to hospital where, despite efforts to … Sie waren für einander geboren. ... Ich habe Stackb zu liebe [mich] physisch zugrunde gerichtet indem ich ... noch so viele Kummer und Krankheit durch ihn zugezogen habe." "[39] She could not contemplate marrying Beethoven, a commoner, for the simple reason that she would have lost the guardianship of her aristocratic children. 120 to her, and in one of his letters found after his death, he famously wrote: “Though still in bed, my thoughts go out to you, my Immortal Beloved, Be calm–love me–today–yesterday–what tearful longings for you–you–you–my life–my all–farewell. (A Letter by Christoph Baron von Stackelberg to Josephine Brunsvik-Deym-Stackelberg.). Howell, Standley (1979): "Beethoven's Mälzel Canon. Eleonore von Breuning (1771 - 1841): Beethoven's first love Eleonore was the sister of Stephan von Breuning, and a member of the family in Bonn that did so much to help the young musician. Significant new discoveries in European archives were made and published by Steblin (2002, 2007, 2009, 2009a) and Skwara/Steblin (2007). 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